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Apr 29, 2011

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Laiima

Literata, that was utterly marvelous! and that is a word I do not use lightly.

This is the first year since I started celebrating Beltane where I have to find a new way of celebrating it, and I haven't quite figured out what that will be yet, but I'm open to the universe and the new me figuring it out together.

Happy Beltane to all who celebrate it!

storiteller

That's really lovely. I especially enjoyed the "cupping of the hands" imagery and how is used for so many different actions that all require gentleness.

The idea of wildness without "wilderness" reminds me of Michael Pollan's book Second Nature. Before everyone knew him for his food writing (Omnivore's Dilemma, In Defense of Food, etc.), he wrote this book. It's a series of essays about how we should approach nature as a garden rather than a wilderness. He argues that this approach allows us to respect and appreciate all of nature, even urban and other developed areas. Although I don't think we should treat nature like a garden in the sense that most people think of a garden - all straight lines - I do think it works really well with the idea of permaculture. Permaculture is the idea of integrating humans into the patterns of nature, so that we can meet our food and other needs in a way that is just and ecologically sound. Do you know if there is a Wicca or other pagan discussion around permaculture?

Laiima

@storiteller, Starhawk is a proponent of permaculture, through the Reclaiming movement. I'm sure she is not the only prominent Wiccan or Pagan to be interested in the topic, which seems to be everywhere these days (finally!).

Thanks for the book recommendation. I've been struggling with that same issue philosophically, but coming from a different background I would guess than Pollan, and I haven't yet resolved what I think about it.

Laiima

http://www.starhawk.org/permaculture/permaculture.html

Lonespark

No Unsacred Place is a new blog/community/thing from the Pagan Newswire Collective that might have things to say about stuff like permaculture.

alienbooknose

This really struck a chord with me.

In college I took an awesome class on the *entire* history of Brazil. One of the first books we read was about the history of human habitation in the Amazon, which emphasized the fact that even the places those of us in the developed world tend to think of as the wildest places on earth, like the Amazonian rainforest, are highly influenced by humans. We often characterize aboriginal peoples as somehow "closer to nature" and thus assume they had little or no impact on the environment, but the reality is that the footprint of humankind can be seen as strongly in the rainforest as anywhere else if you know how to look. The book really profoundly affected my suburban-kid thinking on nature, exposing a lot of my ideas for the Romantic silliness they were.

Nenya

This is really fascinating to this city girl* in love with a lightkeeper. :-) And really beautifully and thoughtfully written, Literata.

(*who was, however, actually raised in the backcountry for the first half of her life, though not quite so wild as her love's home)

Kit Whitfield

Something I believe is that perfectionism is the enemy of the soul. The approach to nature - get out of your living room and get rained on - very much reminds me of this: nature is perfect in its imperfection, its variation, its inexorability. We benefit from remembering that 'perfect' doesn't mean 'trouble-free', and that the best place to start is our own reactions - to learn how to enjoy a bumpy ride rather than panic about it not always being smooth.

Mark Temporis

Kit, that's something I've been trying to learn ever since I was diagnosed a decade ago as a perfectionist. Not the functional kind, who often succeed in the business world, but the type who never do anything because they are afraid to fail. I can't initiate any sort of social connection for fear of rejection: not just lovers, but friends or even business. It kills me to even apply for a job.

As you might see, this lesson isn't quite learned. Perfectionism has more or less eaten my soul entirely.

Lonespark

Ah, Mark, I am sorry to hear you struggle with perfectionism to that degree.

I have also had huge problems with it. It is very difficult to start any action when I can always think of seven different factors that might influence the "best" approach to take. And I apply for very few jobs, because I always feel like I don't have the time to write the perfect cover letter. Or I do write the letter, but I just keep editing it, over and over, and never send it...

On that last point I knew it was too much of a liability, and my new method of basically ignoring my internal standards, and more or less closing my eyes and hitting send, helps some but can lead to ignoring things that shouldn't be ignored.

I take medication and (should be doing) counseling to deal with the obsessive thinking, and that helps.

Literata

Thanks, everyone! storiteller, I'll have to look that up - I love Pollan's work, and actually based a recent blog entry on an excerpt from his Botany of Desire. Kit, that's been an important lesson for me too. Mark, thank you for chiming in with your perspective; I'm sending you "good vibes" to keep up the work to get some of your soul back.

Literata

I'd like to thank TBAT for all the wonderful feedback and help they gave me for this piece. I can't say enough how much I appreciate all you do for us, TBAT.

Albanaeon

I really like this. Particularly as it resonated well with my studies into Taoism right now. Definitions of "this is Nature" and "this is Human" when you really look at them, break down pretty quickly. They show themselves to be separate, yet inseparable, and each contains a bit of another.

Speaking of nature being uncooperative, there is nothing like trying to do yard work in the early spring out here on the plains. At first it seemed like their would be no point since we hadn't had any significant moisture, except for one snowstorm, since late December. So my plans revolved mostly around making sure we were protected from any grass fires. Then the Winds started. It's hard not to get annoyed when the day is nice and sunny and altogether perfect except for gusting winds that make doing anything unpleasant. Finally we started getting rain, over about a week, making everything extremely dreary.

But then, you get these perfect days, with sun, light breezes, and everything becomes worth it. The soil is moist to allow you to dig without problem. You project just comes together as you feel energized with purpose and sun and breezes and the view and the sky and green coming out everywhere and just life... It's been a very clear reminder that Taoist aren't supposed to fight Nature, they are supposed to be like Nature, and always remember to work when it is the time to work, rest when it is time to rest, and avoid struggling against things you cannot fight to begin with...

Lunch Meat

What a wonderful post! Thank you, Literata--I feel really uplifted right now.

Kristin

Wow... Thought this was beautifully written.

Rowen

Nice post! I've been struggling with nature and spirituality for a while now. I used to live in Texas and plenty of pagans, and trees and ants and things. Then I packed up and moved to NYC, and lost all connection to my "natural" roots, and for a while, felt like it was because I was living in a highly urban environment. I've been slowly learning how to be a pagan in a city, as opposed to a city pagan, or a living room pagan.

Zigforas (who is not late to the conversation today)

The only real response to the fact that death happens is, "I love you."

Beautiful. Thank you.
Your words remind me of this from Thornton Wilder's The Bridge of San Luis Rey:

But soon we shall die and all memory of those five will have left the earth, and we ourselves shall be loved for a while and forgotten. But the love will have been enough; all those impulses of love return to the love that made them. Even memory is not necessary for love. There is a land of the living and a land of the dead and the bridge is love, the only survival, the only meaning.

Karen, who is still stoked about getting a Slactiverse link

That was beautiful Literata. I love that the Slactiverse publishes works for every holiday members celebrate, too.

Mark, thank you for reminding me that perfectionism is principally a pathology, not something to be celebrated. Far more people suffer than benefit from it.

Lonespark

Happy Beltane, Walpurgisnacht, International Workers Day, etc., etc.

Lonespark

Slactivites, I am here with my husband and no kids. He's like, writing his autobiography, IDEK, but we're totally in the same room and it's awesome!

He does have an extraordinary story. He's overcome so @#$%ing much to be doing well in medical school, to be there at all, and I'm so proud I can't find the words.

Lonespark

Slacktivites, I mean.

Damn it.

Hail Freya.

Peace out.

Literata

Zigforas, thanks for the recommendation! Karen, thanks - I think we're still working on a few holidays, but I look forward to reading Eid al-Fitr posts here too eventually.

Lonespark, that's awesome. Hail Freya and all the Powers, and a blessed Beltane indeed!

Luna

This was really lovely. Thank you for sharing.

Brin

Let's see what the spammers have for us this time.

Unsubtle. So confusing I suspect it's a deliberate attempt to get people to click through just to try and figure out what they're talking about. I give it a 2.5.

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